Un hardtop et un sedan (coupe pour les puristes...)

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Un hardtop et un sedan (coupe pour les puristes...)

Message  Jean-Marc Gaudet le Jeu 25 Fév 2010, 19:37

Salut amateur(e)s de carrosseries diverses,

Sedan, coupe, poteau, etc. :





Hardtop :





Les presque plusss beaux du monde entier... La grosse classe.

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Re: Un hardtop et un sedan (coupe pour les puristes...)

Message  427copoz le Jeu 25 Fév 2010, 20:26

Salut Amateur de body

Chrysler vendait les Plymouth Road Runner
comme étant des 2-portes sport coupe
et des 2-portes Hardtop
et des 2-portes convertible

Aucune mention de 2-Portes Sedan dans leur Publicitée



sur les papier de vente (window Sticker) c'était écrit RM21
= 2-door coupe et non sedan




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Un hardtop et un sedan (coupe pour les puristes)

Message  Jean-Marc Gaudet le Jeu 25 Fév 2010, 20:52

Salut amateur(e)s de Road Runner sport coupe,





J'ai conduit un Road Runner sport coupe pendant des années sans le savoir.
Tabarnouche, on en apprend des affaires sur le Forum ABC...

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Re: Un hardtop et un sedan (coupe pour les puristes...)

Message  427copoz le Jeu 25 Fév 2010, 22:15

Salut Jean Marc

J'ai conduit un Road Runner sport coupe pendant des années sans le savoir.
Tabarnouche, on en apprend des affaires sur le Forum ABC...

Jean-Marc

Et oui on ne peut pas être parfait

j'ai toujour écrit Fairlaine avec in i et il n'y en a pas
Fairlane

Mais pour les style de body c'est plus complexe
il vaut mieux ce fier a ce que les compagnie disait
parce que les vrais définition des style de body date du temp
de voitures a chevaux

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Re: Un hardtop et un sedan (coupe pour les puristes...)

Message  omc351 le Jeu 25 Fév 2010, 22:20

Salutation ,
un 2 portes a poteaux , sa passent partout ,
c'est universel......... Laughing
Michel......... salut

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Re: Un hardtop et un sedan (coupe pour les puristes...)

Message  ADM le Jeu 25 Fév 2010, 22:28

Wikicars a écrit:At its most basic, the sedan is a passenger car with a separate hood (bonnet in British English), covering the engine in the front, and a separate trunk (boot in British English), for luggage at the rear—the archetypical "3-box" car.
Un capot a part couvrant le compartiment moteur , un coffre arrière a part pour le compartiment bagages , plus le "compartiment" passagers et on a un sedan typique ! Question


Historically, the usage of the term sedan has changed over time.


A two-door sedan is defined by the SAE as any two-door model with rear accommodation greater than or equal to 33 cubic feet (0.934 m³) in volume (a calculation made by multiplying the legroom, shoulder room, and headroom).

A coupé or coupe (from the French verb couper, to cut) is a car body style, the precise definition of which varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, and over time. Coupés are often sporty variants of sedan (also known as saloon) body styles, with doors commonly reduced from 4 to 2, and a close-coupled interior (i.e. the rear seat placed further forward than in a standard sedan) offering either two seats or 2+2 seating (space for two passengers in the front and two occasional passengers or children in the rear).

Si on se fiait juste a ca , un char avec de la place pour des adultes a l'arrière serait un sedan et un char avec des places d'enfants a l'arrière serait un coupe ! Rolling Eyes

Je retient cette portion de phrase :
the precise definition of which varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, and over time

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Sedan ou hardtop ?

Message  Jean-Marc Gaudet le Mar 23 Mar 2010, 18:54

Salut amateur(e) de long fuselages,





Un Plymouth Fury Grand Sedan 1973.

Les gros Chrysler étaient longs mais les Plymouth aussi en traînaient beaucoup de métal.

On avait de la place pour s'exprimer...

Il me semble que c'est beaucoup plus un hardtop 4 portes qu'un sedan 4 portes.

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Re: Un hardtop et un sedan (coupe pour les puristes...)

Message  Fifty Seven le Mar 23 Mar 2010, 19:39

[edit] Types of sedan
Several versions of the body style exist, including four-door, two-door, and fastback models.

A sedan seats four or more people and has a fixed roof that is full-height up to the rear window. The roof structure will typically have a fixed "B" pillar on sedan models. Most commonly it is a four-door; two-door models are rare, but they do occur (more so historically). In the U.S., the term sedan has been used to denote a car with fixed window frames, as opposed to the hardtop style without a "B" pillar and where the sash, if any, winds down with the glass. However, true hardtops have become increasingly rare.

[edit] Notchback sedans

1962 Chevrolet Impala, a typical notchback sedanA notchback sedan is a three-box sedan, where the passenger volume is clearly distinct from the trunk volume of the vehicle (when seen from the side). The roof is on one plane, generally parallel to the ground, the rear window at a sharp angle to the roof, and the trunk lid is also parallel to the ground. Historically, this has been a popular and arguably the most traditional form of passenger vehicle.

[edit] Fastback sedans

1941 Plymouth fastback sedanA fastback sedan is a two-box sedan, with continuous slope from the roof to the base of the decklid, but excludes the hatchback feature. Marketing terminology is often misleading in this area - for example, Daimler AG calls the Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class sedan a four-door coupé because its semi-fastback design tries to give the impression of a coupé. Certain sedans are edging close to being one-box vehicles, where the windshield is steeply raked from the hood and the rear window slopes toward almost the end of the car, leaving just a short rear deck that is part of the trunk lid - the 2006 4-door Honda Civic is an example of this. They are not fastbacks because their bodyline changes from the roof to the rear deck. Their steeply raked rear windows end with a decklid that does not continue down to the bumper. Instead, their rear ends are tall - sometimes in a Kammback style - to increase trunk space.

Typically this design is chosen for its aerodynamic advantages. Automakers can no longer afford the penalty in fuel consumption produced by the traditional notchback three box form.

[edit] Two-door sedans
See also: Coupé

Opel Kadett B two-door sedanThe Society of Automotive Engineers defines such a vehicle as any two-door model with rear accommodation greater than or equal to 33 cubic feet (0.93 m3) in volume (a calculation made by adding the legroom, shoulder room, and headroom).[citation needed] By this standard, the Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, and Mercedes-Benz CL-Class coupés are all two-door sedans. Only a few sources, however (including the magazine Car and Driver), use the two-door sedan label in this manner.

In the popular vernacular, a two-door sedan is defined by appearance and not by volume; vehicles with a B-pillar between the front and rear windows are generally called two-door sedans, while hardtops (without the pillar, and often incorporating a sloping backlight) are called coupés.

The Mazda RX-8 meets the volume requirement to be called a sedan, but it has vestigial rear-hinged rear doors, so some call it 2+2-door sedan. Another term for a coupé endowed with rear-hinged doors is a "quad coupé." However, this may simply be vernacular, based on a possible copyright by General Motors, for its Saturn Ion Quad-Coupe.

[edit] Hardtop sedans
See main article: Hardtop
1958 AMC Ambassador hardtop sedanIn historic terminology a sedan will have a frame around the door windows, while the hardtop has frameless door glass. A true hardtop sedan design also has no "B" pillar (the roof support behind the front doors). This body style has an open feel, but requires extra underbody strengthening for structural rigidity. The hardtop design can be considered separately (i.e., a vehicle can be simply called a four-door hardtop), or it can be called a hardtop sedan. During the 1960s and 1970s, hardtop sedans were often sold as sport sedans by American manufacturers and were among the top selling body styles. During the 1980s, automakers in the U.S. focused on removing weight and increasing strength, and their new four-door sedans with B-pillars were called pillared hardtops or pillared sedans. The sport sedan term has since been appropriated for other uses. In Japan, and among Japanese manufacturers worldwide, the hardtop design was popular among luxury sedans throughout the 1990s.




[edit] Hatchback sedans

Chevy Malibu Maxx hatchback sedanHatchback (a.k.a. liftback) sedans typically have the fastback profile, but instead of a trunk lid, the entire back of the vehicle lifts up (using a liftgate or hatch). A vehicle with four passenger doors and a liftgate at the rear can be called a four-door hatchback, four-door hatchback sedan, or five-door sedan. An example of such is the Chevrolet Malibu Maxx. There can also be two-door hatchback sedans (three-door sedans), by the same technical explanation for two-door sedans. Examples of this design are the Volkswagen Golf, and Chevrolet Chevette.

D'après ce texte, ca serait un Hard top sedan, beau compremis salut

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